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 Post subject: Headlight Relays
PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 11:31 pm 
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Hello:
I am in need of some help with getting a relay and how to wire it for the Hi/Lo Beam function on a motorcycle headlight. I am using a "normally open" momentary micro switch (ie horn button) to activate the relay. I have tried a relay from Midwest Cycles (pn 17-116) that didn't work and one from Custom Chrome that turned out to be the exact same relay and also had the same results.
The project I am working on is the restoration, updating and mild customization of a Shovelhead FXWG that didn't have any of the stock switchs and much of or the need for the stock wiring harness left. So I have rewired it to cover my needs and everything works fine exept for not being able to get relyable Hi/Lo beams on the headlight.
Any help and assistance you can give me will be greatly appreciated.

Virgil


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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 8:38 am 
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You'll need a push on-push off switch or you'll need to wire up a latching relay.

It would be much easier to get the switch. If you have that, let me know, we'll go from there. I can explain how to wire up a latching relay, but it's a not-so-small project.

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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 8:49 pm 
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http://www.customchrome.com/catalogs/CCP2006/0506.html
pn 68600 Upper left hand corner

Ripper:

The link above is the switch I allready have mounted. If you can recomend an on off push button that is similar I am all for it. If not tell me what I need for a latching relay (I think thats what I have allready bought and tried but I am thinking the relays themselves were defective and I'm sure you how it is trying to return electical parts....It don't happen!!!)

http://www.customchrome.com/catalogs/CCP2006/0529.html
pn 17729
This is the relay that I have bought twice.

What about one of these????
http://shop.arlenness.com/store/product ... ct_ID+7086

Thank you for your input and help,

Virgil


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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 9:11 pm 
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Ok,
First, your switch appears to be just a momentary push button. I don't know of any push on-push off switches styled like that.

Second, that relay is just a relay, it is not a latching relay. I'm guessing, if it's wired correctly, your high beam stays on only if you hold in the button.

Third, $100.00 is a lot of money, but it sure is simpler than wiring up a latching relay if you've never done one. It actually takes a few relays to make up one latching relay. I know of another way, but it's just as complicated. Although it takes only one relay, it takes a few other components as well.

I may have something you could use and it would be alot cheaper than $100.00
I'll let you know if I still have it (it's part of an automotive alarm system, but it can be made into what you need). I just don't know if I still have it.

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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 10:04 pm 
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I also just found this:
'Kirkham Motorsports' part # is DNI 0127. Any local NAPA dealer has it for under $30.00

Wired like this:

pin 56 +12v

pin 30 +12v
pin S switch

56a (low beams)

56b (high beams)

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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 10:48 pm 
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Ripper:

Thank you very much for the info on the relay available from NAPA. I'll get me one and give it try, it sounds like what I'm looking for. I also took one of your tips and reran the headlight ground back to the frame instead of in the bucket. I'm a welder by trade and should have known better on that one!!!!

Thanks again,

Virgil


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:03 am 
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Ripper:

I got the relay that you mentioned and wired it like you said and it works PRIMO!!!!!
It is actually the exact same one that I got from Custom Chrome and Midwest but by a different manufacture.....What I did find out is that the wiring diagram that CCI sends with it is wrong and put a dead short on the low beam side and I think burns out the internal resistor.

Thanks again for all your help and maybe I can help you out some day in return.

Virgil


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Virgil,
Glad to be of service. Feel free to post any time, post pictures of your bike, etc....

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